[Silent-Death] Is the Board Working Properly

[Mario Butter]

BTW, more info from the IETF about the DMARC policy changes that broke
nearly every mailing list in the world... :-)

http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg87153.html

-- 
Mario

http://mario.silent-tower.org/

On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 11:27 PM, Mario Butter <
mario.butter at silent-tower.org> wrote:

> You might want to check your spam folder for the original posting. No, you
> shouldn't get a dup if someone hits "reply-all" - the mail system should
> see that you already got a copy and disable sending another one to your
> email. As I said, it's a change in response to the recent DMARC enforcement
> change that Yahoo, Aol and a few other providers did that broke many email
> lists. On my higher traffic lists, I had a number of people that were
> constantly being bounced off the list because of DMARC violations from
> Yahoo (mostly) and when I moved to the new server, I set it up this way to
> prevent that from happening. Basically, Yahoo, et al, saw that the "from"
> address had been changed (like most email lists do) and bounced that mail
> as possible spam. So, I don't change the from, instead I add a "cc" with
> the mail list posting address.
>
> And the email was NOT sent to Leland only - it had a CC of the mail list,
> because he hit reply-all. Here is a copy of the headers:
>
> From: Stephen Wilcoxon <wilcoxon at gmail.com>
> To: Leland Erickson <blackwidowplt at aol.com>
> Cc: silent-death at mailman.silent-tower.org
> Subject: Re: [Silent-Death] Ping!
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> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 11:09 PM, <Grimmnar at aol.com> wrote:
>
>>  *Mario,*
>>
>> *OKies. *
>> *But why didn't i see BWP's post on the 16th? Makes me wonder if i missed
>> other posts or postings. *
>>
>>
>> *And the way you have it set up, anyone that wants to reply to a post of
>> mine, when they hit the REPLY ALL button I will get a double post???*
>> *Has it always been this way on this group? First I am knowing of it and
>> I wonder if others know as well. *
>>
>> *It is just not what I find on all the forums and mail groups I am apart
>> of. His response said no where that it was sent to the SD list, but sent to
>> Leland only and I got a copy. *
>>
>> *As far as I know this is the only list with these settings that I am
>> aware of. Just wanted to make sure all the bells and whistles were ok. *
>>
>> *Grimm*
>>
>>  In a message dated 4/20/2015 12:00:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> mario.butter at silent-tower.org writes:
>>
>> The server doesn't respond to you with your own emails unless you turn
>> that option on (it defaults to off). The reply address munging that most
>> email lists do was broken by Yahoo, Aol, et al, when they turned on strict
>> DMARC enforcement, so it's been turned off on my lists to reduce the number
>> of bounces from your "helpful" email providers. If you do a "reply-all"
>> when responding, it works fine (the list does not change the "from"
>> address, it just adds a new "to" header, so "reply-all" sends to the list,
>> and plain "reply" sends to the email author privately).
>>
>>  --
>> Mario
>>
>>
>
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